FS: $4,500 Casey's 200 20v

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WOMBAT
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: Time to get moving - Thanks Tim/Toph!

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I MISS MY CAR!!!

stupid money... stupid waiting for throwout bearing... Everyone else stop working on your cars, you're making me jealous :P
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: Time to get moving - Thanks Tim/Toph!

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WOMBAT wrote: -1991 V8 quattro OE 5spd - Sold, but we still talk


This really deserves +1. :)

Great project.

Keep it going. ;)
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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^thanks!

HELP!!! Trying to remove the old pilot bearing and long story short, all that remains is the outer casing and I can't get it to budge and can't figure out how to get a bite on it to get it out... it also seems to be made of super hard metal which destroys drill bits and cold chisels.

any btdt?? I'm thinking I'll bring the motor to the machine shop around here and see what they can do... completely stumped here
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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I had the machine shop do mine
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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did you bring it to them unmolested?
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
bimmerboy

Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

Post by bimmerboy »

I'd just carefully cut it the same you do when a wheel bearing race doesn't want to go with the bearing. Maybe just a hacksaw blade?
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

Post by Reckless_Kelly »

I had to beat the crap out of the one on my V8. It was part of the root cause of the clutch failure, so it started out mangled. I beat the casing and pounded it into the hole until it was almost flat against the back of the hole, then I was able to twist it a little bit and pull it out with a pair of needle nose pliers.

If you can get a small hole drilled into the back wall of it, you can try threading a machine screw into it an pull it then.
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I recall having to use a die-grinder with a round sanding drum. It took a while but got the job done without damaging the crank.
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Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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I've tried bashing and broke 3 cold chisels... Tried a die grinder and the casing didn't budge, just wrecked the bit... Tried drills and dulled many bits, tried the soap/grease method and nothing. What the hell is this material? It seems harder than everything metal I try to destroy it with
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
fafwa45

Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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I think its a terillium carbonic alloy
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

Post by Ronald G Wainwright+ »

Told u was going to b a pain.
All above suggestions are spot on. Keep plugging away at it man.
fasterthenrs2

Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Heat it white than crunch it down quick it will make that thing to shrink
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Yup, huge PITA. When I removed the casing from the MC motor you couldnt even tell the casing was there! I used a dremel and a carbide bit (dont quote me on that, it was strong though), and after some time I was able to separate the bearing from the wall of the crank, but it came out in pieces :)
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Today is a new day.... thanks for the support, I'll pick up a carbide bit on the way to the shop!
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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If you have a MIG, you could weld a bolt on and then slide hammer it out. Or even a nut that fits inside and tack it around the edges. Had to do that with a v6 torque convertor bushings
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Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Well after much carbide bit usage and flat head screw driver chiseling....Image

And then...
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Intermission for lunch
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Ok and then..
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So much bay.. So little motor?
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Better put the goodies on for flare
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Hank,
It doesn't quite fit under the hood... And radiator clearance is gonna be an issue
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And then to end the night... Beers, BBQ and:
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Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Sweet project!! It's coming right along and everything looks so clean. I like it!
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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We knew it was going to be close. I will take care of you. Send me a PM with more detail!!
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Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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ShavedQuattro wrote:We knew it was going to be close. I will take care of you. Send me a PM with more detail!!


Yep, we'll figure it out! It's ridiculous that the T44 bay would be more crammed than the B3... Oh well time for a serp. belt setup and AAN radiator? We'll see!
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Nice progress Casey! I can't wait to see this thing in action someday. It looks more baller than I thought possible with all the turbo goodies on there :) Ballerest 200 in the US when its finished :D
-Chris

'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
E34 530i (maybe rear-mount soon)
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

Post by TurboQuattro88 »

Casey, haven't seen this since I sold you those H&R's and the totally worthless Bilstein's that were attached to it. I think your cousin Jeremy hooked us up on that trade. But anyway, looks great and it sit really nice on those springs :D
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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Nice job on getting the bearing out. Pics look good! :D
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: oh EFF... HELP!!

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TurboQuattro88 wrote:Casey, haven't seen this since I sold you those H&R's and the totally worthless Bilstein's that were attached to it. I think your cousin Jeremy hooked us up on that trade. But anyway, looks great and it sit really nice on those springs :D



Oh yea! Thanks for that! Those were actually for the V8 I used to have, but sold back to the previous owner last fall. The V8 sits REALLY nicely on those springs... See the results here: http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php? ... 6&start=50 Page 3 toward the bottom

Thanks for the kind words! It has been and continues to be a long wait getting this car together but very worth it
Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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Re: Casey's 200 20v: Motor is in!

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Wow, that does sit amazingly nice on those spring... wish i almost had them back haha... i'm stuck with an A6 suspension now and its monster trucking.
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Casey's 200 20v: Motor is in!

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set the timing today Image

Then put the ps pump and rad in to see how the intake interfered
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Here's how far from flush with the head the intake is
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Clears the ps pump just fine though. Radiator core would have to be shortened 3-4".
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But the hood..
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Some more pics Hank with the manifold removed - there's not much room to play with
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No more AC. Why? Because race car.
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Casey O

Current Attire:
- 2007 Audi A3 3.2 quattro

Past Projects:
- 07 Cooper S - 91 200 20vt - 91 90 20v - 85 4000CS - 96 Audi Cabriolet 5 Spd - 02 A4 1.8T - 91 V8 5 Spd - 01 A6 2.7T 6 Spd Sport - 86 5000CS - 91 100
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