Tacos 4KTQ I0vt Swap: The Red Baron - buying parts again
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Wilford Brimley
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Taco is selling a 95.5mm crank. I can only assume tall deck de-stroked 20vt for his new engine.
amirite?
amirite?
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
well a destroked 20v would definately make a bunch of sense. I mean, we know how much they flow at high rpm, yep makes perfect sense.
Again...chipped 20vt....cheapest fastest, most reliable power for the money...
oh wait, practicality is not wanted here. Forgot.
Again...chipped 20vt....cheapest fastest, most reliable power for the money...
oh wait, practicality is not wanted here. Forgot.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Wilford Brimley wrote:Taco is selling a 95.5mm crank. I can only assume tall deck de-stroked 20vt for his new engine.
amirite?
Correct!
Only difference is I will NOT be using the 159mm rods. The plan will be to order a set of custom rods and pistons utilizing *hopefully* a 173mm rod for a 2:1 rod/stroke ratio. This will mean lighter pistons due to the wrist pin boss being moved up higher thus needing shorter skirts.
Even though I plan to port the living bajeezus out of the head with massively oversized valves, I would want to only rev this thing to 8000. I'm also planning on a full internal balance with the possibility of a dry sump system.
As for the turbo, well....we'll see about that after this damn volvo k24 sells!!!!

1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
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2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
dana wrote:well a destroked 20v would definately make a bunch of sense. I mean, we know how much they flow at high rpm, yep makes perfect sense.
Again...chipped 20vt....cheapest fastest, most reliable power for the money...
oh wait, practicality is not wanted here. Forgot.

dude....you're trying to sway a guy whose SN is "AngryTaco" with a LIFTED 4kq. When have I EVER been practical?
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
touche!
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
and the plot thickens...
24v-VR6T-CQ BEAST http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193#p37887
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Wideband this time?
-Alex-
@vexartmedia @odd.cylinders @5cylinder_porsche
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1992 Porsche 968 (07K transplant in progress)
1983 Aud UrQ (MC1, GT2871R, IIc)
1985 Audi 4kq
2003 Audi S8 (Avus/Oxblood; DD; 6MT swap)
@vexartmedia @odd.cylinders @5cylinder_porsche
Odd Cylinders YouTube Page
1992 Porsche 968 (07K transplant in progress)
1983 Aud UrQ (MC1, GT2871R, IIc)
1985 Audi 4kq
2003 Audi S8 (Avus/Oxblood; DD; 6MT swap)
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
alxdgr8 wrote:Wideband this time?
oh for sure with VEMS!!!
Since business and my personal job have really picked up steam, everything will finally begin to move faster. I'm going to finish the much needed motor work on the dodge first before I start delving into the audi. That will be a winter project
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
IIRC, the s1 rally cars put out 600# of tq at 1000 rpm.
GO!
GO!
Find me on Instagram @pry4sno
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
PRY4SNO wrote:IIRC, the s1 rally cars put out 600# of tq at 1000 rpm.
GO!
I seriously doubt that
24v-VR6T-CQ BEAST http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193#p37887
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
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mr_aj_johnson
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
s1 was 20v....
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
I distinctly remember reading that tidbit somewhere online, or hearing it on a period video on youtube.
Had something to do with their Umluft system and incredible amount of boost at idle (1.5 bar, IIRC).
Had something to do with their Umluft system and incredible amount of boost at idle (1.5 bar, IIRC).
Find me on Instagram @pry4sno
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
The S1 idled at like 3000rpm too, which would make a little more sense. I still think it's a stretch though.
Sam Stone
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Yeah it probably is an exaggeration. Going to drive me crazy now until I find the source.
And FWIW, I meant A1 or A2, cause that stat was definitely for a 20v. Shredded my coconut when I came across the info.
And FWIW, I meant A1 or A2, cause that stat was definitely for a 20v. Shredded my coconut when I came across the info.
Find me on Instagram @pry4sno
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
(waits eagerly for corroboration)
24v-VR6T-CQ BEAST http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193#p37887
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Welcome to Taco's thread. Place of many argument, illogical fallacies, crazy shenanigans, and spam to buy my shit
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
AngryTaco wrote:Welcome to Taco's thread. Place of many argument, illogical fallacies, crazy shenanigans, and spam to buy my shit
You could build something and show us...
Just sayin'
Find me on Instagram @pry4sno
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
|| 2010 Golf Sportwagen TDI /// #farmenwagen
|| 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 24vt 4x4 #bertancummins
|| 1992 80 quattro 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
|| 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Just waiting on money is all
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
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Wilford Brimley
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- Joined: Fri May 09, 2014 11:52 am
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
AngryTaco wrote:Welcome to Taco's thread. Place of many argument, illogical fallacies, crazy shenanigans
Translation: 20vt build thread

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Wilford Brimley wrote:AngryTaco wrote:Welcome to Taco's thread. Place of many argument, illogical fallacies, crazy shenanigans
Translation: 20vt build thread
LOL!

1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
mmmmm....spent the day welding.
Buy them so I can fund VEMS and my TIG!!!


Buy them so I can fund VEMS and my TIG!!!


1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Your welds sure are looking a lot better!
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Thanks guys, even the powdercoater was impressed and said something about it.
So I'm considering caving in and buying the LWFW from 034. After I buy the block, I'll start gathering up the rest of the parts.
Going to do the rear end sometime in the next month just to make some room in the garage. Winter is just about here
So I'm considering caving in and buying the LWFW from 034. After I buy the block, I'll start gathering up the rest of the parts.
Going to do the rear end sometime in the next month just to make some room in the garage. Winter is just about here
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Wait, aren't you paying the powder coat guy? Winter in the Athol of Idaho is starting already bah.
Matt
18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
11 Jetta sedan TDI DSG, rear muffler delete
GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
11 Jetta sedan TDI DSG, rear muffler delete
GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

