What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Perhaps we can turn this into a sticky since I know other people will have this question.
I have the TPS (2 to be exact) off of what I believe is the same for the V6 and AAN
5 injector bungs on the way to run EV14 injectors
I'm going to use an AAN harness and retrofit it accordingly.
Lots of Bosch 2 and 3-pin connectors
Lots of solder and shrinky dink
Anyone care to add to the list?
I have the TPS (2 to be exact) off of what I believe is the same for the V6 and AAN
5 injector bungs on the way to run EV14 injectors
I'm going to use an AAN harness and retrofit it accordingly.
Lots of Bosch 2 and 3-pin connectors
Lots of solder and shrinky dink
Anyone care to add to the list?
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
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2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
What do you plan on using for a trigger? Crank/Cam sensor? OR 60-2?
-Ben-

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
There is no cam sensor. There is a hall sensor in the distributor however.
I was planning to use crank/rpm sensors on the flywheel
I was planning to use crank/rpm sensors on the flywheel
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Mcstiff wrote:#1: VEMS
Good one Ed.I'll say it... #2: 10 good valves

Dan
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =
1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =

1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
You guys are BRUTAL


-Ben-

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Sometimes we are a little brutal, but only in the nicest possible way
On a more serious note... Jared, give Marc a call and he can set you straight on which harness you should start with (AAN or 3B) and then set you up with the proper ecu. I forget which way phillip went on his 3b'd 5k, but you will probably follow a similar recipe because like a 3b the 20vt also has a distributor and no cam sensor.
On a more serious note... Jared, give Marc a call and he can set you straight on which harness you should start with (AAN or 3B) and then set you up with the proper ecu. I forget which way phillip went on his 3b'd 5k, but you will probably follow a similar recipe because like a 3b the 20vt also has a distributor and no cam sensor.Dan
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =
1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =

1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Phil has VEMs Econoseal. No Plug n Play
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Ok then. I can give you a short list off the top of my head. It is by no means complete but add to it if you have more suggestions please, Im going to be doing this exact thing sometime in the next couple years.
VEMS econoseal with flying lead harness.
Injector bungs.
injectors
Fuel rail
1.8T IAT sensor
Wideband 02 sensor
TPS
Coils for COP (optional)
Things that i'm unsure of are triggering, and coolant temp sensor. I do know that on my 40v with vems im using the stock temp sensor for vems but im not sure if you can use different sensors or if most of the newer audi CLT sensors are the same or what.
VEMS econoseal with flying lead harness.
Injector bungs.
injectors
Fuel rail
1.8T IAT sensor
Wideband 02 sensor
TPS
Coils for COP (optional)
Things that i'm unsure of are triggering, and coolant temp sensor. I do know that on my 40v with vems im using the stock temp sensor for vems but im not sure if you can use different sensors or if most of the newer audi CLT sensors are the same or what.
Dan
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =
1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =

1987.5 Coupe GT Special Build
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Stock IAT is usable just not as accurate as 1.8T
Stock CLT from a 20v car is usable. 20vt CLT would not work. Unless its from a 20v non turbo, those are 2 prong like a 20v sensor. Just not sure if they're totally the same internally.
FPR is needed as well. Depending on what you can rig up that can be somewhat expensive. ($200ish)
Stock triggering is easy as well. If using a 3b/aan harness it becomes real easy.
Stock CLT from a 20v car is usable. 20vt CLT would not work. Unless its from a 20v non turbo, those are 2 prong like a 20v sensor. Just not sure if they're totally the same internally.
FPR is needed as well. Depending on what you can rig up that can be somewhat expensive. ($200ish)
Stock triggering is easy as well. If using a 3b/aan harness it becomes real easy.
-Phil
87 5ktq - 20vt
91 v8 5spd - Why?
05 S4 - Gone and very much so forgotten
14 TDI Touareg
-Terrible at responding to PM's
87 5ktq - 20vt
91 v8 5spd - Why?
05 S4 - Gone and very much so forgotten
14 TDI Touareg
-Terrible at responding to PM's
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
I would think you would want to use the 3B harness so you can use the hall sensor in the distributor for ignition timing?
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1991 200 20v Avant MRC Tune + Bilsteins... more to come.
2001 330Ci Convertible -Fiance Mobile
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Justin517 wrote:I would think you would want to use the 3B harness so you can use the hall sensor in the distributor for ignition timing?
Zombie thread?
I have the flying lead harness connected to my stock triggers

Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
For now. Going vems in about 6 months. Im using a 4 bar fpr from the later audi/vws. Going COP ignition as well
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
any 5cyl fuel rail work? or does it have to be made specific for the 20v?
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Pretty sure it has to be specific. I picked up an 034 one a while back with brackets for cheap
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: What is needed for VEMS on 20vt?
Dont forget to get the intake manifold spacer. Without that you will have clearance issues with the throttle body.
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1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)