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90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 am
by DFrosty
Hello all
I'm a little late starting this build thread, here it goes nevertheless...
Taking a bone stock 1991 90q 20v and turning it into my track car
Engine:
7AT modified to S2+ spec
- built 7A bottom end, SCAT rods, JE pistons + updated necessary hardware
- rebuilt 7A head, ported/polished, ARP schtuff + updated internals and hardware
- Wagner Tuning S2/RS2 Intercooler kit
- Wagner Tuning reverse inlet manifold
- 034 universal catch can
- 034 I5 Aluminum radiator
- RS2 fan
- 3" SS exhaust
Gearbox:
01E 5 speed CBD from UrS4
- Spec stage 3+ clutch
- output flange conversion to accommodate S2 hub conversion
- JHM solid shifter
- JHM center diff upgrade
- JHM centering spring upgrade
- B5S4 shifter box, Early shifter rod and stabilizer rod, shortened to fit
Chassis:
- TC Design motorsports harness bar
- 2Bennett S2 B3 '90-'91 2B Coil Program Suspension
- 2Bennett Stage 2 BBK front and rear
- 2Bennett shock tower brace
- 2Bennett rear sway bar upgrade
- 034 Track Density motor mounts
- 034 Aluminum Subframe bushings
- 034 Delrin control arm bushings
- short ratio steering rack
- Widebody kit
Updated pics, build notes and other info forthcoming....
Attachment ( 34751 ) : 90q20v front.JPG
Attachment ( 34752 ) : 90q rear.JPG
Attachment ( 34753 ) : 90q harness bar.JPG
Attachment ( 34754 ) : 90q built block.JPG
Attachment ( 34755 ) : 90q pistons.JPG
Attachment ( 34756 ) : 90q built head.JPG
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:21 am
by audifreakjim
Cool to see pics of what you are working on. Looks like it's going to be something else! Can you post more pics of the harness bar? This is one of the things I need to do sooner than later. Mainly where it ties into the chassis. Would you mind sharing what it cost to install it?
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:27 am
by quattro v1.0
Did you already purchase your widebody kit?
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:33 am
by Hank
Nice!
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:36 am
by OOOOGT
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
Did you already purchase your widebody kit?[/quote]
+1, I don't think there's many of those floating around.
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 am
by audifreakjim
I want to see boxflares
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:43 am
by DFrosty
audifreakjim wrote:Cool to see pics of what you are working on. Looks like it's going to be something else! Can you post more pics of the harness bar? This is one of the things I need to do sooner than later. Mainly where it ties into the chassis. Would you mind sharing what it cost to install it?
Thanks Jim....it's been a true test of patience, but am learning a TON doing this myself.
Sure no prob...I'll shoot a few more detailed pix tonight after work. Total cost was $1500 and TC Design was able to complete it inside of a week
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:47 am
by DFrosty
audifreakjim wrote:I want to see boxflares
That would be awesome, but I'm starting out with the standard CQ kit....maybe I can do some shape-shifting in the future?
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
Did you already purchase your widebody kit?[/quote]
Yes...think I picked up one of the last kits from 034
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:07 pm
by DFrosty
1st of many PITAs....
Someone decided to use their new snap on tool to remove spot welds for removing the battery tray.....and it wasn't me or Dave Johnson seen here helping out with the welding
Attachment ( 34759 ) : 90q firewall 'simo'd'.jpg
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Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:17 pm
by 00basil00
Would love to see some pics of the widebody
Sent from my GT-N7100
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:37 pm
by PRY4SNO
A couple things quickly come to mind reading your spec list:
-- You could save money and not sacrifice quality going with an intercooler from Treadstone vs the Wagner kit.
-- A "reverse" intake manifold by Hank (aka Iroz Motorsport) modified to fit the 7A would not only give you more flow but be much more aesthetically appealing.
-- 2Bennett is horrendously expensive for anything compared to... well, almost anything. For a catch can 42DraftDesigns makes a couple beautiful pieces worth a look.
Otherwise, build looks fantastic! I'll be watching your progress for sure, and eagerly await some track day vids.
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:42 pm
by Mcstiff
:stupid:
The IM does not need modification to fit a 7a (as you can see in my thread); the PSP is tight as is the 7a coolant neck.
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:34 pm
by mr_aj_johnson
the 034 catch cans are on ebay for under 50 bucks.
Jim there is a nice shelf where the seat pan and the floorpan interchange for installing a roll hoop on some nice foot pedestals. Harness bar can be bent towards, or away from seats to suit. However if you are going to put in a hoop, you might as well take the time to make it applicable to a spec of some sort. (ie nasa, scca etc)
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:59 pm
by quattro v1.0
DFrosty wrote:quattro v1.0 wrote:
Did you already purchase your widebody kit?[/quote]
Yes...think I picked up one of the last kits from 034[/quote]
Dang, Im considering un-widening mine...
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:57 pm
by OOOOGT
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
DFrosty wrote:quattro v1.0 wrote:
Did you already purchase your widebody kit?[/quote]
Yes...think I picked up one of the last kits from 034[/quote]
Dang, Im considering un-widening mine...[/quote]
I wonder how bad it would be to get the rears off and shape them to a 4 door...
If they had only done some bumper extensions on the front too, that would really make it look better.
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:39 am
by DFrosty
PRY4SNO wrote:A couple things quickly come to mind reading your spec list:
-- You could save money and not sacrifice quality going with an intercooler from Treadstone vs the Wagner kit.
-- A "reverse" intake manifold by Hank (aka Iroz Motorsport) modified to fit the 7A would not only give you more flow but be much more aesthetically appealing.
-- 2Bennett is horrendously expensive for anything compared to... well, almost anything. For a catch can 42DraftDesigns makes a couple beautiful pieces worth a look.
Wow that's fantastic info! I was not aware of Hank's fabbing prowess...definitely will shoot him an email.
That Treadstone ic looks like it will do the job for sure....I should be able to retain the stock cross member with the addition of mounting points as well
Thank you sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar!
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:48 am
by DFrosty
00basil00 wrote:Would love to see some pics of the widebody
Sent from my GT-N7100
Here's a super rough mockup
Attachment ( 34766 ) : 90q widebody mockup.jpg
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:54 am
by audifreakjim
Definitely read through Mark's build before you dive in with those fenders. They actually need a fair amount of modification to fit wide wheels and tires since they were originally designed to work with stock bumpers.
Here is a link that shows the fenders current status, but look through from the beginning.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16273&p=501871&hilit=fender#p501871
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:54 am
by DFrosty
audifreakjim wrote:Cool to see pics of what you are working on. Looks like it's going to be something else! Can you post more pics of the harness bar? This is one of the things I need to do sooner than later. Mainly where it ties into the chassis. Would you mind sharing what it cost to install it?
Here you go Jim
Have a ton of parts inside, all over the car actually, and can pull everything out this weekend if you'd like some better shots
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Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:35 am
by DFrosty
Timing pin height differences...minor PITA due to multiple trips to have rectified
Hopefully does not turn into a major one during operation
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Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:33 am
by DFrosty
Short ratio steering rack odyssey....Learning the not easy way
Next time I'll wait to purchase a new high pressure line until after I have the new rack in hand. The difference in the location of this port created quite a bit of education....still don't know from what chassis the short ratio rack came from
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Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:40 pm
by my2000apb DrBeastCar
rs2 racks are much shorter and do bolt in, not sure if thats what you have though
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:31 pm
by Jockejansson
Here you have peter bollnerts audi 90imsa gto build with lots of pictures.
http://www.audimotorsport.se/imsabyggetfoton.html
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:19 pm
by OOOOGT
Have you talked with the person that has the IMSA GTO 90 rolling chassis that was on ebay recently? IIRC they were in California too.
Re: 90q IMSA GTO (wanna-be) build
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:18 am
by RSCoupe
OOOOGT wrote:Have you talked with the person that has the IMSA GTO 90 rolling chassis that was on ebay recently? IIRC they were in California too.
Do you by any chance have a link?