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HPR Customer Project Car: Driving Video

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:12 pm
by AngryTaco
Doing a 20vt swap for a customer. Going to start it at about a 225hp so it's reliable and doesn't have issues. Going to use an MC2 motor and do a rebuild so it's fresh. Should still be a fairly quick wagon when done. Don't worry, your mounts and bushings won't be delayed with this in the works ;)

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Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:20 pm
by scubagli
They call those synchro cause vw, but aren't they identical to a 4kq underneath? Looks like fun.

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Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:31 pm
by AngryTaco
Yeah it's pretty much exact to a 4kq on the drivetrain. Only difference is the actual body lol. The engine bay is exactly the same as a 4kq/urQ

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:43 pm
by loxxrider
Talk about sleeper...

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:43 pm
by AngryTaco
Which is exactly what my customer wants. We're starting the car out with stock power to see how he likes it but then I'll do the basic upgrades such as ECM and spring/adjustable wastegate. Ultimately, it's going to end up with 225-250 crank. I told him I dont want to go any more than that due to reliability issues considering I know all too well lol

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:18 am
by themagellan
Paging el mushasho, there is a VR6T Quantum in the NorthEast somewhere. Car should be tons of fun with a 20vt

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: 20vt Syncro Wagon

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:15 pm
by AngryTaco
Need a complete MC2 Engine, CIS, Engine Harness, and ECM (preferably chipped)

Willing to travel to Seattle, Montana, Southern Idaho, Oregon or other states for the right price. I believe I can cram this thing into the back of the v8q's boot so snow or w/e shouldnt be an issue on the roads.

At worse, I can pull the head to make it fit or use straps to keep the lid shut

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:56 pm
by DE80q
Should be an interesting project. Is there a reason you are sticking with CIS?

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:38 pm
by AngryTaco
Budget does not allow for EFI conversion. That may come next year upon which I'll set him up with VEMS

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:58 am
by alxdgr8
If he needs quantum parts, just saw a quantum synchro at a junkyard in Lake Stevens, WA. Bit of a drive from Idaho though, and it wasn't in particularly great shape.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:00 am
by AngryTaco
Well we really dont need QSW parts, mainly just conversion parts. I found an engine and harness. Going to get with GTjeff for a chipped ECM after the swap is done.

Motor is getting completely redone and rebuilt.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:07 pm
by alxdgr8

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:41 pm
by AngryTaco
Called and left a voicemail. Fingers crossed this goes through as my customer wants to trade him a sidearm for it. That would be awesome!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: SEEKING ENGINE/HARNESS/ECM/CI

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:07 pm
by AngryTaco
Picking up the car tomorrow! I get to relive the excitement that is a 20v swap.......YAYYYYY!!!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:34 pm
by AudiSport4000
Luckily for the owner, Taco got his CIS 4ktq running in tip top shape, so he should rest easy ;) ;) ;)

You are brave my friend.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:22 am
by AngryTaco
It was fast too!

Went and picked up the donor car yesterday. Other than the body damage, it's in pretty decent shape and drives really nice. I forgot what a 20vt felt like lol!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:04 pm
by AngryTaco
If everything goes right, we may be pulling the motor out on Sunday. At least the front cross-member unbolts for easy access on this one lol

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:11 pm
by DE80q
Yeah, that makes a world of differance when it comes to swapping engines!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:57 pm
by GTJeff
Sounds like the engine runs good. In my opinion to maximize reliability I would just drop it straight in. No rebuild, head porting, big valves, MSL hg, ARP studs or any of that crap. For the 220 hp, just install a good intercooler, exhaust, chip, relayed fuel pump.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:04 pm
by AudiSport4000
GTJeff wrote:Sounds like the engine runs good. In my opinion to maximize reliability I would just drop it straight in. No rebuild, head porting, big valves, MSL hg, ARP studs or any of that crap. For the 220 hp, just install a good intercooler, exhaust, chip, relayed fuel pump.


Not even a MLS at the bare minimum? Thats pretty much all I did for mine along with ARP studs. Everyone is different though.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:18 pm
by DE80q
I learned the hard way to at least install a MLS head gasket. My factory head gasket didn't even last 5k miles at higher than stock boost levels.

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:16 pm
by AngryTaco
Well, it's getting an MLS headgasket for sure. The motor has 225k on it to begin with so I'm sure once he decides to spend money on the performance parts, the motor needs to be ready. I've decided against building the head as he isn't going to see high rpms and ridiculous boost levels like I was seeing on mine.

The budget, right now, is only allowing for a motor rebuild, urq Airbox/igloo assembly, misc parts, and labor. No HPR goodies other than a 20vt Michelin Man hose at this point unfortunately. Hopefully those will come later as money allows

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:35 pm
by AngryTaco
urQ igloo and airbox on the way!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:35 am
by GTJeff
Maybe I was being a little brash about the MLS gasket. It probably is good insurance. How I have kept mine together is by keeping an eye on AFRs and detonation. I would bet money that most of the blown hgs are due to det. Maybe the hg goes before the pistons melt so you are better off with the paper hg. Ha!

Re: HPR Customer Project Car: Found Donor Car

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:05 am
by dana
put a MLS gasket with headstuds and call it a day if you want it to actually run and be reliable.