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Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:36 am
by ralleyquattro
I guess I am bringing Brianna to the meeting ;)

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:43 pm
by Highlander
ralleyquattro wrote:You 4 cyl guys have ton of options, unfortunately since there are only so few of these 2.5s here I will have to go to the fatherland for some go fast goodies and ECU chipping. For now stock is the word.
If anything I have had my eye on a nice GT22V from a 151hp Eurovan.

Did very little today, that kind of a day.



Come on Pajak.........your slipping.

:slap:

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:39 pm
by 1wheelpeel
Quattro Krant wrote:[/quote]
My contribution to this build will come when I give you the relay Thursday. Also, I want to RAPE Shannon in return for the relay. I'm talking bound and gagged in a french maids outfit style of raping[/quote]

I hope this ends up on youtube for all to see. :lol:

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:08 pm
by ralleyquattro
Did quite a bit today, battery tray and battery itself is in and done, just waiting for the bulkhead connector.
Main propshaft is back in as well as the shielding, also did a bit on the exhaust.
Craig, do you have the Ur-q 20vt downpipe by any chance?
I used to have plenty but now I find myself with NONE!
Looks like the best fit, just need to blank off the WG connection.

Tomorrow need to finishup the fuel side of things and get some diesel in the tank.
Hope that connector shows up as well.

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:49 pm
by 80qtdi
scottmandu wrote:
80qtdi wrote:About the only V-6 TDI that is worth anything powerwise is the newer Common rail 3.0 motors. Most of the VE styles had camshaft issues and really don't make much. The I5 is an awesome engine, I also had serious contemplations with this engine when it was up for sale. I'll look forward to seeing this car to completion. Good Luck.

How close is the linkage and shifter setup compared to the 80Q? Would the RS2 stuff fit in my 80 too?


I wouldn't knock the V6, I've been talking with a German who has one tuned to over 350 ps. Yes the cams are problemsome but so are the ones on the 4 cylinder. A replacement typically fixes the cam issue.


I guess I stand corrected with the V-6's. Very nice progress with your build. Quick question for you, how thick was the frame (on the b3 cutoff) where the frame motor mounts are? Kind of funny, I want to go to the B4 style mounts on my 80.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:36 pm
by ChrisAudi80
Quattro Krant wrote:[/quote]
Also, I want to RAPE Shannon in return for the relay. I'm talking bound and gagged in a french maids outfit style of raping[/quote]
:lol: :lol:

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:53 am
by ralleyquattro
80qtdi wrote:Quick question for you, how thick was the frame (on the b3 cutoff) where the frame motor mounts are? Kind of funny, I want to go to the B4 style mounts on my 80.


Not very thick, thinner than the actual metal for the mount bracket.
I can take pic for you, still have the cut off pieces.

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:54 am
by 80qtdi
Dang, I was hoping it was a little thicker. Thanks for the info.

Jon

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:34 am
by ralleyquattro
Here is how the battery looks in it's new spot.
I used the stock V6 battery try with some mods.
The S2 avant/sedan and RS2 also use the same location.

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And the original S2 bracket and cover, if I can find one now.

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Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:50 am
by nismo
Martin,
Is that a standard piece for the battery cover, or did you have to make/purchase it separately?

Eric

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:23 am
by Lord_Verminaard
Does the battery have someplace to vent?

Brendan

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:24 pm
by ralleyquattro
It is a standard piece for the S2 sedan, wish I had one, but like all other parts from that vintage they are NLA.
Don't suppose I'll see an S2 sedan being parted out soon either, there were only 306 made!

The cabin vent is just underneath the battery, I can run a standard batery vent hose (like the ur-q or 5ktq) if I find it to stink too much.

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:24 am
by Quattro Krant
1wheelpeel wrote:
Quattro Krant wrote:
My contribution to this build will come when I give you the relay Thursday. Also, I want to RAPE Shannon in return for the relay. I'm talking bound and gagged in a french maids outfit style of raping[/quote]

I hope this ends up on youtube for all to see. :lol:[/quote] I'm not talking literally, I'm talking figuratively. I want to get that bitch into a 4 wheel drift, smoke pouring off all 4, then put her away all wet and hot and bothered. Or maybe I do want to have sexual relations with his car, it is that good looking.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:36 am
by my2000apb
richard is a rapist

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:27 am
by ralleyquattro
Very productive Saturday and morning today.

Friday I received the bulkhead connector which allowed me to hook up the battery cable on the inside and reinstall the HVAC... the momentum was there so the dash went in as well.. I must say, this job is a major PITA, the typ 85 cars are soooo much simpler in that department.

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On Sunday I was able to borrow John A's (1wheelpeel) Ur-q downpipe.
Never been so dissapointed in my life! Doesn't fit. Too close to the manifold and hits the subframe

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So.. for now stock it is. BTW stock is 2.25" while the Ur-q one is more line 2.5"

More on Wednesday, my son is going to have his toncils and adnoids removed tomorrow, not looking forward to it. :(

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm
by ralleyquattro
More progress:

Finished the downpipe and connected rest of the exhust, the ear section still needs to be welded, but it's tacked together for now.

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If you must know the pipe came from Ur-q it's the center section with the muffler cut off before the bend, can't believe how well it fits ;)

Also interior is looking more like an interior should.

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For all the b3 guys, am I missing something??

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And WTF is this plug?

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That's all folks.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:42 pm
by T-Rex
Good progress. I see you got the sport option gauges too.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:48 pm
by ralleyquattro
I added those myself, even though my car has the 1BE sport option it did not have the gauges, just the sport suspension and rear spoiler.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:52 pm
by T-Rex
ralleyquattro wrote:I added those myself, even though my car has the 1BE sport option it did not have the gauges, just the sport suspension and rear spoiler.


Does the new engine have the sensors for those gauges? Like oil pressure and oil temp?

Also, re battery relocation, did you use any circuit breaker? And where did you buy cables?

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:07 pm
by ralleyquattro
Craig (Highlander) got the cables for me long time ago, no clue where.
No circuit breaker, at least for now.
Yep, the engine has sensors for the gauges, previous owner added them in, stock 1T harness did not have the connections for the gauges so I'll have to run some seperate wires for the two sensors only.

B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:49 am
by a_CQ
What are you looking for/at with rad support? Doesn't bolt in on the front?

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:28 am
by ChrisAudi80
And how are you going to get a tach signal? Not sure how this is done on diesels

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:05 am
by Lord_Verminaard
The early IDI's got the tach signal from the alternator. Later TDI's had a crank sensor. I would imagine this 2.5 has a setup just like the gasser I-5's with the sensor on the flywheel ring gear.

Brendan

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:17 pm
by ralleyquattro
a_CQ wrote:What are you looking for/at with rad support? Doesn't bolt in on the front?


I don't see anything to bolt the rad support to :frustrated:

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:19 pm
by ralleyquattro
Lord_Verminaard wrote:The early IDI's got the tach signal from the alternator. Later TDI's had a crank sensor. I would imagine this 2.5 has a setup just like the gasser I-5's with the sensor on the flywheel ring gear.

Brendan


Yep, flywheel sensor and the TDI Motronic (same 55 pin connector) sends the signal to the tachometer.
Pretty neat, just need to find out if the signal is generic i.e. no matter if it's 4-5 or 6 cyl or will I need to get a 5 cyl tacho from a B3.
Time will tell... hoping to start this engine by the end of the week.

Cheers