Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:23 am
did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
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Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:32 am
Dave, come grab the Recaros. I'm hauling the transmission down.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:59 am
death 4kqt wrote:[/quote]
how many MPT does this get? (miles per transmission)[/quote]
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:06 am
Yeah, DQT TDI transmission is going in with the flexible main shaft, 4:1 rear diff and some fresh fluid. That last 5 speed(narrow at that) was one of the best used boxes I have used yet. Super smooth shifting and quiet. It just needs a new front seal and i'll likely put it through the Recycling program for another day.
Hank
Hank
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:21 pm
I figured so, with the list you had for sale may as well have one in your car...
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:32 pm
scubadave wrote:did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
If Dave or someone could bring my Recaros I would be much appreciative! Thanks
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:48 pm
quattro87 wrote:scubadave wrote:did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
If Dave or someone could bring my Recaros I would be much appreciative! Thanks
We shall see....
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:06 pm
quattro87 wrote:scubadave wrote:did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
If Dave or someone could bring my Recaros I would be much appreciative! Thanks
So would my garage!!!
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:21 pm
Audilard wrote:quattro87 wrote:scubadave wrote:did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
If Dave or someone could bring my Recaros I would be much appreciative! Thanks
So would my garage!!!
That's the problem on this end........I'm not sure they will fit in my garage. :(
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:24 pm
quattro87 wrote:Audilard wrote:quattro87 wrote:[quote="scubadave"]did you find a transport for all your parts? I may be able to bring the recaro's if still needed. I dont think I have room for the trans.
If Dave or someone could bring my Recaros I would be much appreciative! Thanks
So would my garage!!!
That's the problem on this end........I'm not sure they will fit in my garage. :([/quote]
BBQ Garage Sale??? :wink:
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:22 pm
So what is the best tranny solution for high hp audis like Hanks? What part of the tranny seems to fail the most.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:03 pm
01E is the strongest. They have issues with the 2nd gear shift collar locking up from number of reasons. Mostly from shifting into second gear to quickly and an OEM syncro that was not aggressive enough. The rebuild kits with a new collar and new syncro are a good idea for any stock transmission even if it shifts perfectly when you put it in.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:16 pm
The TDI one Hank mentioned above is supposedly the best.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:58 pm
I have a DQT in mine for over a year now, no issues whatsoever.. nice highway cruising as well!!
I probably don't beat on it as hard as Hank does.
The only better 01E units are the oil cooler pump equipped, in TDIs they were 3.89 and rest (like W8 or S8 etc) 4.11
HTH
I probably don't beat on it as hard as Hank does.
The only better 01E units are the oil cooler pump equipped, in TDIs they were 3.89 and rest (like W8 or S8 etc) 4.11
HTH
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:34 pm
TJ: Hank,Do you know what is the max torque the stock AAN bottom end could hold for GT2871 with E85?
I'm running 22psi of boost and going to give it 30Psi til 7200RPM.Am i going to max out the 2871?
Thanks,
pop
I'm running 22psi of boost and going to give it 30Psi til 7200RPM.Am i going to max out the 2871?
Thanks,
pop
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:48 pm
I highly doubt you'll be able to run 30psi out of a 2871 to redline. That's 30R levels of flow, if not 35R.
Sam
Sam
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:03 pm
SeStone wrote:I highly doubt you'll be able to run 30psi out of a 2871 to redline. That's 30R levels of flow, if not 35R.
Sam
Hey Sam,
one the 034's page,it said it could be able to run over 28psi efficiently.i remember someone said it's going to run out of steam after 8K RPM.Not sure what's the maximum torque AAN bottom end could be handle though.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:01 pm
You can hit over 28psi in the midrange, but it won't sustain that to 7000rpm on a 2.2. Looking at the compressor map, I think all you could sustain would be 22-24ish?
Sam
Sam
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:22 pm
ralleyquattro wrote:I have a DQT in mine for over a year now, no issues whatsoever.. nice highway cruising as well!!
I probably don't beat on it as hard as Hank does.
The only better 01E units are the oil cooler pump equipped, in TDIs they were 3.89 and rest (like W8 or S8 etc) 4.11
HTH
That is the one I meant actually.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:15 pm
popdemonic wrote:SeStone wrote:I highly doubt you'll be able to run 30psi out of a 2871 to redline. That's 30R levels of flow, if not 35R.
Sam
Hey Sam,
one the 034's page,it said it could be able to run over 28psi efficiently.i remember someone said it's going to run out of steam after 8K RPM.Not sure what's the maximum torque AAN bottom end could be handle though.
2871 on my DD s4. I see 26lbs peak, but it dies off hard in the top end especially in higher gears (19-20psi). Top end might work a bit better with some 7a cams, haven't tried em.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:13 am
Hairball II wrote:[/quote]
So what is the best tranny solution for high hp audis like Hanks? What part of the tranny seems to fail the most.[/quote]
It depends on what your using the car for. The tdi transmission with the flexible main shafts save the first gear but have been known to shear off with very high horsepower and hard racing conditions. The regular main shafts have been known to gall first gear with similar abuse.
The 1-2 collars are problematic, mostly due to the shifter design of the C5 and B5 cars, as 1-2 collar problems are almost non existent in C4 cars. There are updated pieces which fix this issue, but you won't find a factory transmission with those pieces installed.
The later tdi transmissions (2003 and up) had a pump, standard capacity sump but the first and second gears are even shorter than the standard 01E (3.75/2.14).
Since the terms better and best are entirely subjective here are three scenarios taking into account engine and car use.
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a low displacement street car would be:
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
4.11 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.32/.93 3rd/4th -- There is also a 1.43/1.07 but 4-5th spacing would be pretty wide.
.73 5th
.60 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a large displacment engine
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
3.89 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.23/.87 3rd/4th
.68 5th
.56 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a track only car
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
4.35 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.43/1.07 3rd/4th
.86 5th
.76 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
However there are power limitations to the stock internals, at about 600 wheel hp in a racing environment I've seen, 3rd gears shear and first gear loose teeth with drag racing.
It depends on what your using the car for. The tdi transmission with the flexible main shafts save the first gear but have been known to shear off with very high horsepower and hard racing conditions. The regular main shafts have been known to gall first gear with similar abuse.
The 1-2 collars are problematic, mostly due to the shifter design of the C5 and B5 cars, as 1-2 collar problems are almost non existent in C4 cars. There are updated pieces which fix this issue, but you won't find a factory transmission with those pieces installed.
The later tdi transmissions (2003 and up) had a pump, standard capacity sump but the first and second gears are even shorter than the standard 01E (3.75/2.14).
Since the terms better and best are entirely subjective here are three scenarios taking into account engine and car use.
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a low displacement street car would be:
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
4.11 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.32/.93 3rd/4th -- There is also a 1.43/1.07 but 4-5th spacing would be pretty wide.
.73 5th
.60 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a large displacment engine
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
3.89 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.23/.87 3rd/4th
.68 5th
.56 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
The "Best" transmission utilizing factory parts would look like this for a track only car
Allroad TDI high capacity sump with pump
4.35 final drive
3.50/1.89 first/second
1.43/1.07 3rd/4th
.86 5th
.76 6th
Updated 1-2 shift collar parts
However there are power limitations to the stock internals, at about 600 wheel hp in a racing environment I've seen, 3rd gears shear and first gear loose teeth with drag racing.
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:21 pm
This car is insane, thanks for the ride Hank!
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:08 pm
So... how'd the dyno go?
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:34 pm
I hear the dyno didn't happen this year :(
Re: Hanks URQ 2.6L Tall deck
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:13 pm
Dyno didn't happen but tuning did and there should be some good burnout videos appearing in this thread soon. Hoonage did happen.