
Tacos 4KTQ I0vt Swap: The Red Baron - buying parts again
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I picked up the trick from Rog's build thread 

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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
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Yeah, and the funny thing is, when I was researching it after seeing it done on TV, I found people quoting emails from ARP that said it was a good idea to do that. And yet their instructions say only "finger tight" and they do put a bottom taper on their aluminum-block studs. Really weird.
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Yeah, and the funny thing is, when I was researching it after seeing it done on TV, I found people quoting emails from ARP that said it was a good idea to do that. And yet their instructions say only "finger tight" and they do put a bottom taper on their aluminum-block studs. Really weird.
-Rog
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I think BMW paid off ARP to try and sabotage us Audi fans
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Hey so I'm timing the engine at the moment and a thought came across my mind. Are the MC-1s an interference motor? I know the JTs are not but I was able to fully rotate the camshaft while piston #1 was at TDC and had no binding. Perhaps it is only when the lifter is pumped up?
My cam specs:
.432" lift
224 @ .050"
110 LSA
My cam specs:
.432" lift
224 @ .050"
110 LSA
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Rogviler
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
All the turbos were interference in that era (no idea about newer stuff), and the rest were not (except maybe the 2.3 which apparently was at high RPMs), although I've read of N/As that bent valves and turbos that didn't. As I understand it, the difference is the dished pistons- when the belt breaks the valves hit the higher outer edge. I'm sure damage versus none has more to do with when it breaks. Coming off of idle seems more likely and would be kinder to the valves than if you're screaming down the interstate when it goes...
Good explanation. :wink:
-Rog
AngryTaco wrote:I think BMW paid off ARP to try and sabotage us Audi fans
Good explanation. :wink:
-Rog
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron


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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Is it just me, or is that O-ring look to big?
"If you can't find one, make one"
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Rogviler
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
DE80q wrote:Is it just me, or is that O-ring look to big?
Like me, you're probably just used to seeing them all fried and withered.

Definitely something I'll need to do with mine in the near future...
-Rog
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Those o-rings are proper size. Theyre just modern day and new. These ones are designed for modern day gas with ethanol. Now they wont get all eaten up. Soon as I get off work, my dad and I are putting the engine/trans/k-frame back into the car today.
Also, those o-rings are an absolute pain in the ass to put on
Also, those o-rings are an absolute pain in the ass to put on
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I can imagine they were a pain to put on. Cant wait to see this project come together!
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
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2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Yeah I cant wait. Im tired of driving the truck! I want my fuel mileage back!
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I hear oh on that. It will be nice to get mine done too, just for the mileage.
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Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Im really hoping I'll be in the high 20's with this car. That will essentially cut my fuel bill in half over what I'm spending now
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
We are on the same page with that. High 20s low 30s would be awesome.
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
its all in how you drive it
i can near 30 in the JT or 12-15 having fun
i can near 30 in the JT or 12-15 having fun
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
How in the world do you manage that!? I was lucky to get 23-25mpg if I was super easy on it
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I know with my NG I was getting between 26-28 with normal driving.
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
the more worn the engine gets the more freely it spins, and a bit bigger tire
24v-VR6T-CQ BEAST http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=193#p37887
16v-ABA-T VEMS O1E ETC 4Kq http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=201#p38264
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
You will get better mileage with the MC, at least I did. I think I got around 30mpg on my first trip to Carlisle, but it got better after that once I properly set the mixture.
New injector o-rings are nice. Popping them in in great (twss)
New injector o-rings are nice. Popping them in in great (twss)

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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Looks good man! Hurry and get this sucker done so you can go to BBQ!
-Ben-

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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Its funny to see you talk about how you might get good gas mileage with your 20vt swap. I thought i might get good gas mileage with my V8 swap but what i've found is everytime i drive it I just cant seem to drive it like a normal car. When you have power you use it all the time and its so hard not to use it when you know all you have to do is push that right pedal down. Best of luck with your fuel ecomony :-)
Dan
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
I have my R/T to go fast and play around with, but yeah I agree with always wanting to use the power.
On a side note......THE ENGINE IS IN!!! Transmission, engine and front k-frame are bolted in. I have to still do the down pipe. I think removing the wastegate and bolting the down pipe pn first will work
On a side note......THE ENGINE IS IN!!! Transmission, engine and front k-frame are bolted in. I have to still do the down pipe. I think removing the wastegate and bolting the down pipe pn first will work
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Had my Fuchs powdercoated bright white

Now the fun part....pushing the engine under the car


Its IN!!!!



Guess it's time to start connecting all the wiring

Now the fun part....pushing the engine under the car


Its IN!!!!



Guess it's time to start connecting all the wiring
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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
That's the best part. xD
-Ben-

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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron
Update! Down pipe, wastegate, and all exhaust components bolted up. The down pipe had 0 clearance issues so not sure why some people claim to have issues. I believe I have the wiring figured out.
If anyone has a spare CIS fuel supply line that goes from the fuel filter to the fuel dizzy off a 20vt, let me know!! The fuel routing will be done after I get that line. I will be checking the JY this week too for the line I need.
I believe I have about half the intake figured out. Using the URq intake components, I can onnect the igloo to the turbo no problem. My major problem is figuring out how Im going to mount up this intercooler
If anyone has a spare CIS fuel supply line that goes from the fuel filter to the fuel dizzy off a 20vt, let me know!! The fuel routing will be done after I get that line. I will be checking the JY this week too for the line I need.
I believe I have about half the intake figured out. Using the URq intake components, I can onnect the igloo to the turbo no problem. My major problem is figuring out how Im going to mount up this intercooler
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