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Re: Taco's 4KTQ 20vt Swap: Project Red Baron

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WOOT! Are you going to try and make BBQ?
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Allllllllll depends on time, money, and school. Trust me, I want to go
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Make it happen man! :)
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I'd sure love to see a 20VT and a 20vt 4kq in my driveway :-)
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Maybe I'll bring the Dodge with an American V8.........
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:barf: :barf: :barf:



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Nah, I think this weekend while waiting for the head, Im gonna change the rear main seal, pilot bearing, and mount the transmission up. I should be putting the engine in next weekend....just as long as nothing breaks......
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Woot! Get it done!
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Engine and trans are mounted back together. Put in new rear main seal, housing gasket, and pilot bearing. Lightened MC1 flywheel, sachs clutch, all bolted up. Lining the clutch plate up was a bitch though. Had to stand the engine up and drop the trans on using the engine hoist. Found a new dif cover out of the yard with the bearing all intact. 5th gear engages and spins like butter now. Should have the head and freshly powdercoated wheels tomorrow. May be lifting engine back into car this weekend.
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Oh, and discovered why the center dif always had trouble unlocking. Turns out the plastic nipple broke off that controls unlocking. So the car was reliant upon me speeding up and slowing down. Found a perfect actuator out of the yard with the new dif cover.
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why the heck would you unlock the center ahha
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Oye.....looks like the head is getting New exhaust valve guides. Machine shop called and said they were moving and had to replace them before cutting the seats. Another unexpected $50 and another $15 for new stem seals. The head will most likely get decked .008 - .010" to make it straight too. Now excuse me while I go win some money playing poker
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Im kind of surprised you didnt just replace the guides to begin with. From the reading I was doing, the stock 20v engines like to chew up guides.
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Interesting, never knew that. The guides in the head I f'd up were fine. The intakes are fine so I'm gonna leave those alone
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The machine shop I took my head to, told me to order guides. They never even looked at the head. After they got the head, they told me to be glad I ordered them. All of my guides were out of tolerance and they would have charged me almost 3X what I paid for them on AZ. That head only had 120k on it.
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talked to the shop about it and he said not to worry about the intakes. Said they were fine and I shouldn't worry about them right now.
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Its the "wouldn't worry about them right now" part that bothers me. I don't want to have to pull the head back off any time soon.
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any other shop I'd be right there with you. These guys are some of the best around here and I know the guy personally. So I trust them
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That is different then, I dont think he would BS you. I dont know the guy doing my head work. rs4tech took it to the place his shop uses all the time.
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Yeah and if it starts showing signs of needing replacement. I'll just get the other head fixed and throw that on.
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Got the head back the other day and started working on it. The intake guides have the exact same amount of play as the new exhaust valve guides so I'm confident they didn't need replacement. Ported the head. Man did the exhaust ports need work. The intakes were pretty much dead on but I did a little port work anyways. The exhaust manifold is done too, which needed a ton of work. Ported where the the turbo bolts on and where it meets the head. Putting the valve train back in tonight and putting the engine back in on Sunday
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If I remember right, you probably took out about 1/8"+ the whole way around on the exh. ports on the head and manifold. I hope you had some good alum. bits. The manifold was worse for me, in the porting aspect. The cast was so work hardened the burr bit had trouble cutting it. I was gladd to get it done. look forward to hearing this thing running!
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I went thru about 3 60-grit dremel sand wheels on everything. Ran the 120-grit through the exhaust ports too to smooth em out. Gonna take some high grade sand paper too and go over them
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Nice should flow pretty well for you. I had the joy of useing die grinders, burr bits, and grit rolls. Had lots of fun :wink:
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yeah it should. I went to town on the turbo side too. MUCH more space now
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